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Group: DynoMotion Message: 10392 From: jackgiz@ymail.com Date: 10/26/2014
Subject: Adding a VFD/Spindle to a CNC Router
I'm considering adding a Spindle to my CNC Router.  I have a Kflop and Kstep currently set up.  Has anyone successfully connected a Huanyang VFD to a Kflop or Kstep?  If so, would you be willing to share how you did it?


Group: DynoMotion Message: 10393 From: Tom Kerekes Date: 10/26/2014
Subject: Re: Adding a VFD/Spindle to a CNC Router
I'm not familiar with it, but here is a cnczone thread I found that includes a pdf manual.  It seems to have an 0-10V pot type of analog input that should be easy to connect to KSTEP's analog output.

HTH
Regards
TK

Group: DynoMotion Message: 10395 From: Jack Gizienski Date: 10/27/2014
Subject: Re: Adding a VFD/Spindle to a CNC Router

Hi Tom,

I didn’t see the attached thread.  Can you resend.

 

Also, so you wouldn’t recommend buying a 3.3 V LVTTL to RS-485 converter and go down the RS-485 path?

 

Jack

 

From: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Monday, October 27, 2014 12:18 AM
To: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [DynoMotion] Adding a VFD/Spindle to a CNC Router

 

 

I'm not familiar with it, but here is a cnczone thread I found that includes a pdf manual.  It seems to have an 0-10V pot type of analog input that should be easy to connect to KSTEP's analog output.

 

HTH

Regards

TK

 


From: "jackgiz@... [DynoMotion]" <DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com>
To: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2014 9:02 PM
Subject: [DynoMotion] Adding a VFD/Spindle to a CNC Router

 

 

I'm considering adding a Spindle to my CNC Router.  I have a Kflop and Kstep currently set up.  Has anyone successfully connected a Huanyang VFD to a Kflop or Kstep?  If so, would you be willing to share how you did it?

 

 

Group: DynoMotion Message: 10396 From: Moray Cuthill Date: 10/27/2014
Subject: Re: Adding a VFD/Spindle to a CNC Router
Jack,
 
I suspect Tom means this thread - http://www.cnczone.com/forums/diy-cnc-router-table-machines/117782-huanyang-chinese-vfd-settings-manual.html (the link is in 2, in the list/steps)
 
Modbus is an option, however personally unless you really need to use it to change settings during normal use or you've simply ran out of suitable KStep outputs, I'd personally go the 0-10V route, along with an output or two to activate the VFD/change direction.
My reasoning is avoiding Modbus makes life far simpler, however if you really do want to try Modbus, there is another thread over on cnczone with lots of info - http://www.cnczone.com/forums/phase-converters/91847-huanyang-vfd-rs485-modbus.html
 
Moray

On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 4:15 PM, 'Jack Gizienski' jackgiz@... [DynoMotion] <DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

Hi Tom,

I didn’t see the attached thread.  Can you resend.

 

Also, so you wouldn’t recommend buying a 3.3 V LVTTL to RS-485 converter and go down the RS-485 path?

 

Jack

 

From: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Monday, October 27, 2014 12:18 AM
To: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [DynoMotion] Adding a VFD/Spindle to a CNC Router

 

 

I'm not familiar with it, but here is a cnczone thread I found that includes a pdf manual.  It seems to have an 0-10V pot type of analog input that should be easy to connect to KSTEP's analog output.

 

HTH

Regards

TK

 


From: "jackgiz@... [DynoMotion]" <DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com>
To: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2014 9:02 PM
Subject: [DynoMotion] Adding a VFD/Spindle to a CNC Router

 

 

I'm considering adding a Spindle to my CNC Router.  I have a Kflop and Kstep currently set up.  Has anyone successfully connected a Huanyang VFD to a Kflop or Kstep?  If so, would you be willing to share how you did it?

 

 


Group: DynoMotion Message: 10397 From: Jack Gizienski Date: 10/27/2014
Subject: Re: Adding a VFD/Spindle to a CNC Router

Hi Moray,

Thanks for your response.  After reading through both threads the 0-10V approach seems to be much simpler.  Somewhere along the way I found a thread that referenced this interface board:

 

http://www.cnc4pc.com/Store/osc/product_info.php?products_id=58

 

It sure seems to make the hardware side of things pretty straight forward.  Do you know of any other interface boards that might be worth looking at?

 

Jack

 

From: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Monday, October 27, 2014 7:49 PM
To: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [DynoMotion] Adding a VFD/Spindle to a CNC Router

 

 

Jack,

 

I suspect Tom means this thread - http://www.cnczone.com/forums/diy-cnc-router-table-machines/117782-huanyang-chinese-vfd-settings-manual.html (the link is in 2, in the list/steps)

 

Modbus is an option, however personally unless you really need to use it to change settings during normal use or you've simply ran out of suitable KStep outputs, I'd personally go the 0-10V route, along with an output or two to activate the VFD/change direction.

My reasoning is avoiding Modbus makes life far simpler, however if you really do want to try Modbus, there is another thread over on cnczone with lots of info - http://www.cnczone.com/forums/phase-converters/91847-huanyang-vfd-rs485-modbus.html

 

Moray

 

On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 4:15 PM, 'Jack Gizienski' jackgiz@... [DynoMotion] <DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

Hi Tom,

I didn’t see the attached thread.  Can you resend.

 

Also, so you wouldn’t recommend buying a 3.3 V LVTTL to RS-485 converter and go down the RS-485 path?

 

Jack

 

From: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Monday, October 27, 2014 12:18 AM
To: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [DynoMotion] Adding a VFD/Spindle to a CNC Router

 

 

I'm not familiar with it, but here is a cnczone thread I found that includes a pdf manual.  It seems to have an 0-10V pot type of analog input that should be easy to connect to KSTEP's analog output.

 

HTH

Regards

TK

 


From: "jackgiz@... [DynoMotion]" <DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com>
To: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2014 9:02 PM
Subject: [DynoMotion] Adding a VFD/Spindle to a CNC Router

 

 

I'm considering adding a Spindle to my CNC Router.  I have a Kflop and Kstep currently set up.  Has anyone successfully connected a Huanyang VFD to a Kflop or Kstep?  If so, would you be willing to share how you did it?

 

 

 

Group: DynoMotion Message: 10398 From: Moray Cuthill Date: 10/27/2014
Subject: Re: Adding a VFD/Spindle to a CNC Router

Jack,

You do realise the KStep has a 0-10v output built in via the additional header?

Moray

On 28 Oct 2014 01:41, "'Jack Gizienski' jackgiz@... [DynoMotion]" <DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

Hi Moray,

Thanks for your response.  After reading through both threads the 0-10V approach seems to be much simpler.  Somewhere along the way I found a thread that referenced this interface board:

 

http://www.cnc4pc.com/Store/osc/product_info.php?products_id=58

 

It sure seems to make the hardware side of things pretty straight forward.  Do you know of any other interface boards that might be worth looking at?

 

Jack

 

From: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Monday, October 27, 2014 7:49 PM
To: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [DynoMotion] Adding a VFD/Spindle to a CNC Router

 

 

Jack,

 

I suspect Tom means this thread - http://www.cnczone.com/forums/diy-cnc-router-table-machines/117782-huanyang-chinese-vfd-settings-manual.html (the link is in 2, in the list/steps)

 

Modbus is an option, however personally unless you really need to use it to change settings during normal use or you've simply ran out of suitable KStep outputs, I'd personally go the 0-10V route, along with an output or two to activate the VFD/change direction.

My reasoning is avoiding Modbus makes life far simpler, however if you really do want to try Modbus, there is another thread over on cnczone with lots of info - http://www.cnczone.com/forums/phase-converters/91847-huanyang-vfd-rs485-modbus.html

 

Moray

 

On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 4:15 PM, 'Jack Gizienski' jackgiz@... [DynoMotion] <DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

Hi Tom,

I didn’t see the attached thread.  Can you resend.

 

Also, so you wouldn’t recommend buying a 3.3 V LVTTL to RS-485 converter and go down the RS-485 path?

 

Jack

 

From: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Monday, October 27, 2014 12:18 AM
To: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [DynoMotion] Adding a VFD/Spindle to a CNC Router

 

 

I'm not familiar with it, but here is a cnczone thread I found that includes a pdf manual.  It seems to have an 0-10V pot type of analog input that should be easy to connect to KSTEP's analog output.

 

HTH

Regards

TK

 


From: "jackgiz@... [DynoMotion]" <DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com>
To: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2014 9:02 PM
Subject: [DynoMotion] Adding a VFD/Spindle to a CNC Router

 

 

I'm considering adding a Spindle to my CNC Router.  I have a Kflop and Kstep currently set up.  Has anyone successfully connected a Huanyang VFD to a Kflop or Kstep?  If so, would you be willing to share how you did it?

 

 

 

Group: DynoMotion Message: 10399 From: Jack Gizienski Date: 10/27/2014
Subject: Re: Adding a VFD/Spindle to a CNC Router

I read through everything but didn’t see that.  What header?

 

From: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Monday, October 27, 2014 9:43 PM
To: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [DynoMotion] Adding a VFD/Spindle to a CNC Router

 

 

Jack,

You do realise the KStep has a 0-10v output built in via the additional header?

Moray

On 28 Oct 2014 01:41, "'Jack Gizienski' jackgiz@... [DynoMotion]" <DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

Hi Moray,

Thanks for your response.  After reading through both threads the 0-10V approach seems to be much simpler.  Somewhere along the way I found a thread that referenced this interface board:

 

http://www.cnc4pc.com/Store/osc/product_info.php?products_id=58

 

It sure seems to make the hardware side of things pretty straight forward.  Do you know of any other interface boards that might be worth looking at?

 

Jack

 

From: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Monday, October 27, 2014 7:49 PM
To: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [DynoMotion] Adding a VFD/Spindle to a CNC Router

 

 

Jack,

 

I suspect Tom means this thread - http://www.cnczone.com/forums/diy-cnc-router-table-machines/117782-huanyang-chinese-vfd-settings-manual.html (the link is in 2, in the list/steps)

 

Modbus is an option, however personally unless you really need to use it to change settings during normal use or you've simply ran out of suitable KStep outputs, I'd personally go the 0-10V route, along with an output or two to activate the VFD/change direction.

My reasoning is avoiding Modbus makes life far simpler, however if you really do want to try Modbus, there is another thread over on cnczone with lots of info - http://www.cnczone.com/forums/phase-converters/91847-huanyang-vfd-rs485-modbus.html

 

Moray

 

On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 4:15 PM, 'Jack Gizienski' jackgiz@... [DynoMotion] <DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

Hi Tom,

I didn’t see the attached thread.  Can you resend.

 

Also, so you wouldn’t recommend buying a 3.3 V LVTTL to RS-485 converter and go down the RS-485 path?

 

Jack

 

From: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Monday, October 27, 2014 12:18 AM
To: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [DynoMotion] Adding a VFD/Spindle to a CNC Router

 

 

I'm not familiar with it, but here is a cnczone thread I found that includes a pdf manual.  It seems to have an 0-10V pot type of analog input that should be easy to connect to KSTEP's analog output.

 

HTH

Regards

TK

 


From: "jackgiz@... [DynoMotion]" <DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com>
To: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2014 9:02 PM
Subject: [DynoMotion] Adding a VFD/Spindle to a CNC Router

 

 

I'm considering adding a Spindle to my CNC Router.  I have a Kflop and Kstep currently set up.  Has anyone successfully connected a Huanyang VFD to a Kflop or Kstep?  If so, would you be willing to share how you did it?

 

 

 

Group: DynoMotion Message: 10400 From: Moray Cuthill Date: 10/28/2014
Subject: Re: Adding a VFD/Spindle to a CNC Router
Jack,
 
JP33 pins 5-7 are what you're looking for. Having just checked, the KStep doesn't actually provide the 10V, you need to source it from the VFD, but the KStep manual explains that.
Check the Optically isolated PWM to Analog Circuit section within the JP33 section on the KStep Hardware/Connectors page - http://www.dynomotion.com/Help/SchematicsKStep/ConnectorsKStep.htm
 
And then for the coding, check the Analog Output section (very last section, so easier to just scroll up from the bottom) on the KStep Use and Settings page - http://www.dynomotion.com/Help/SchematicsKStep/UsingKStep.htm
 
Moray

On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 1:49 AM, 'Jack Gizienski' jackgiz@... [DynoMotion] <DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

I read through everything but didn’t see that.  What header?

 

From: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Monday, October 27, 2014 9:43 PM
To: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [DynoMotion] Adding a VFD/Spindle to a CNC Router

 

 

Jack,

You do realise the KStep has a 0-10v output built in via the additional header?

Moray

On 28 Oct 2014 01:41, "'Jack Gizienski' jackgiz@... [DynoMotion]" <DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

Hi Moray,

Thanks for your response.  After reading through both threads the 0-10V approach seems to be much simpler.  Somewhere along the way I found a thread that referenced this interface board:

 

http://www.cnc4pc.com/Store/osc/product_info.php?products_id=58

 

It sure seems to make the hardware side of things pretty straight forward.  Do you know of any other interface boards that might be worth looking at?

 

Jack

 

From: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Monday, October 27, 2014 7:49 PM
To: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [DynoMotion] Adding a VFD/Spindle to a CNC Router

 

 

Jack,

 

I suspect Tom means this thread - http://www.cnczone.com/forums/diy-cnc-router-table-machines/117782-huanyang-chinese-vfd-settings-manual.html (the link is in 2, in the list/steps)

 

Modbus is an option, however personally unless you really need to use it to change settings during normal use or you've simply ran out of suitable KStep outputs, I'd personally go the 0-10V route, along with an output or two to activate the VFD/change direction.

My reasoning is avoiding Modbus makes life far simpler, however if you really do want to try Modbus, there is another thread over on cnczone with lots of info - http://www.cnczone.com/forums/phase-converters/91847-huanyang-vfd-rs485-modbus.html

 

Moray

 

On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 4:15 PM, 'Jack Gizienski' jackgiz@... [DynoMotion] <DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

Hi Tom,

I didn’t see the attached thread.  Can you resend.

 

Also, so you wouldn’t recommend buying a 3.3 V LVTTL to RS-485 converter and go down the RS-485 path?

 

Jack

 

From: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Monday, October 27, 2014 12:18 AM
To: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [DynoMotion] Adding a VFD/Spindle to a CNC Router

 

 

I'm not familiar with it, but here is a cnczone thread I found that includes a pdf manual.  It seems to have an 0-10V pot type of analog input that should be easy to connect to KSTEP's analog output.

 

HTH

Regards

TK

 


From: "jackgiz@... [DynoMotion]" <DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com>
To: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2014 9:02 PM
Subject: [DynoMotion] Adding a VFD/Spindle to a CNC Router

 

 

I'm considering adding a Spindle to my CNC Router.  I have a Kflop and Kstep currently set up.  Has anyone successfully connected a Huanyang VFD to a Kflop or Kstep?  If so, would you be willing to share how you did it?

 

 

 


Group: DynoMotion Message: 10401 From: Jack Gizienski Date: 10/28/2014
Subject: Re: Adding a VFD/Spindle to a CNC Router

Thanks Moray!!  I kept looking at the Kflop and didn’t dig into the Kstep.  This looks perfect.

 

From: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2014 5:30 AM
To: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [DynoMotion] Adding a VFD/Spindle to a CNC Router

 

 

Jack,

 

JP33 pins 5-7 are what you're looking for. Having just checked, the KStep doesn't actually provide the 10V, you need to source it from the VFD, but the KStep manual explains that.

Check the Optically isolated PWM to Analog Circuit section within the JP33 section on the KStep Hardware/Connectors page - http://www.dynomotion.com/Help/SchematicsKStep/ConnectorsKStep.htm

 

And then for the coding, check the Analog Output section (very last section, so easier to just scroll up from the bottom) on the KStep Use and Settings page - http://www.dynomotion.com/Help/SchematicsKStep/UsingKStep.htm

 

Moray

 

On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 1:49 AM, 'Jack Gizienski' jackgiz@... [DynoMotion] <DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

I read through everything but didn’t see that.  What header?

 

From: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Monday, October 27, 2014 9:43 PM
To: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [DynoMotion] Adding a VFD/Spindle to a CNC Router

 

 

Jack,

You do realise the KStep has a 0-10v output built in via the additional header?

Moray

On 28 Oct 2014 01:41, "'Jack Gizienski' jackgiz@... [DynoMotion]" <DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

Hi Moray,

Thanks for your response.  After reading through both threads the 0-10V approach seems to be much simpler.  Somewhere along the way I found a thread that referenced this interface board:

 

http://www.cnc4pc.com/Store/osc/product_info.php?products_id=58

 

It sure seems to make the hardware side of things pretty straight forward.  Do you know of any other interface boards that might be worth looking at?

 

Jack

 

From: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Monday, October 27, 2014 7:49 PM
To: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [DynoMotion] Adding a VFD/Spindle to a CNC Router

 

 

Jack,

 

I suspect Tom means this thread - http://www.cnczone.com/forums/diy-cnc-router-table-machines/117782-huanyang-chinese-vfd-settings-manual.html (the link is in 2, in the list/steps)

 

Modbus is an option, however personally unless you really need to use it to change settings during normal use or you've simply ran out of suitable KStep outputs, I'd personally go the 0-10V route, along with an output or two to activate the VFD/change direction.

My reasoning is avoiding Modbus makes life far simpler, however if you really do want to try Modbus, there is another thread over on cnczone with lots of info - http://www.cnczone.com/forums/phase-converters/91847-huanyang-vfd-rs485-modbus.html

 

Moray

 

On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 4:15 PM, 'Jack Gizienski' jackgiz@... [DynoMotion] <DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

Hi Tom,

I didn’t see the attached thread.  Can you resend.

 

Also, so you wouldn’t recommend buying a 3.3 V LVTTL to RS-485 converter and go down the RS-485 path?

 

Jack

 

From: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Monday, October 27, 2014 12:18 AM
To: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [DynoMotion] Adding a VFD/Spindle to a CNC Router

 

 

I'm not familiar with it, but here is a cnczone thread I found that includes a pdf manual.  It seems to have an 0-10V pot type of analog input that should be easy to connect to KSTEP's analog output.

 

HTH

Regards

TK

 


From: "jackgiz@... [DynoMotion]" <DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com>
To: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2014 9:02 PM
Subject: [DynoMotion] Adding a VFD/Spindle to a CNC Router

 

 

I'm considering adding a Spindle to my CNC Router.  I have a Kflop and Kstep currently set up.  Has anyone successfully connected a Huanyang VFD to a Kflop or Kstep?  If so, would you be willing to share how you did it?